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Contender?

Postby Pottster » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:35 am

Right its probably too early in the season but I think we are 1/3rd of prem games down now.

We know what we can get for our budgets and by now where the big points can be found across the price brackets. Many of us will have been stung by the injury and non injury episodes that have certainly hampered my teams and a more cautious approach may be required if your transfer tally is the wrong side of 30 but high 20's is still a decent amount if your happy enough with your set up.

I'm not having it that you can be in 100,000 place at this stage and still get right at it, even if your a transfer horder like Yorkie (or should he be called Mr Trebus :lol: ) it will be a tricky task unless your nail your next ten transfers. Where was last year winner about this stage (probably 125,000th :lol: )

So my ballpark marker is that you need to be about the 600 point mark after this weekend (or bloody close) and the closer to the 30 transfer mark should be sufficient to get you at it in the new year.

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Re: Contender?

Postby Devilsweep » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:43 am

Morning Pottster,

I'm about to dampen your enthusiasm some what - sorry. If that was true then all of my teams would be contenders (36/41 anyway and of those 5 they are restricted games). I think you just have to accept that the scoring this year has been off the scale and the enablers (the key often to this game) are also fairly obvious. There would have to be carnage to the leading players, City would need to collapse and Utd would need to start shipping.

My view for what it is worth, is you must be over 53 points per week and that means 640+ at the end of this week and at least 30 transfers. 30 transfers is plenty to cover all the main opportunities that will arise IMO. I'll be amazed if anyone comes from further back than the top 5k already this year. We will see I guess.

Last year saw a huge points trawl late on in the season too - this year it has been at the start.

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Re: Contender?

Postby Yorkshire Exile » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:03 pm

545/38 my most bountiful 22k position wise.

Scoring has been daft but positions at this stage are deceptive. If you were top 50 and 50 points behind leader with 6 transfers with 2 months to go you would give yourself a chance.

This team is ca 50 points behind a good position, with I would warrant at least 4 more than average transfers. There is also longer to deploy them now usefully.

I am not having it that contenders should be top 5k at all....

At the end of the day you still gotto hit the points streaks

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Re: Contender?

Postby Yorkshire Exile » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:06 pm

Also if you read the how will it go thread from last year.... I had a team that was 5k in mid march that finished about 40th albeit it never troubled the leaders

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Re: Contender?

Postby Yorkshire Exile » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:12 pm

New year is the time to get excited. Now is carnage season. 6 injuries and a bit of rotation and suddenly teams at the 30 mark may have less than 20 in the new year and are not sitting so pretty.

I am not brimming with confidence this year.... But I've certainly not written off the bulk of mine either...

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Re: Contender?

Postby Pottster » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:19 pm

Good points Sweep and on that basis a manager of your calibre, in the positions you are in should piss it :lol:

I think your somewhat underestimating the gains that can/should be made over the Dec/Jan period and what I'm loosely calling the 'evening out' of what may have hampered teams up to now.

It's astonishing to think that you may need to be well inside the top 10,000 already to be a contender. But its probably fair to say that this season you need to be making ground pronto if your outside the top 5,000 at the mo.

Anyhow its food for thought as we see what the next month or two throws up :albino:
This weekend could well be the turning point for the chasers :hmmm: :dunno:

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Re: Contender?

Postby RINKY » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:12 pm

Got one 690 with 26 trf left, including today, scored about 150 in last to weeks so if you have the right team you can come back from off the pace but would need 3 or 4 good weeks of 70 points..

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Re: Contender?

Postby Devilsweep » Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:00 pm

RINKY wrote:Got one 690 with 26 trf left, including today, scored about 150 in last to weeks so if you have the right team you can come back from off the pace but would need 3 or 4 good weeks of 70 points..


Can I adjust that 640 to 650 - Citeh aint stopping, and the enablers keep producing.

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Re: Contender?

Postby AVIT75 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:37 pm

i have only one team thats close to any of this :lol: good luck everyone else :lol:

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Re: Contender?

Postby Devilsweep » Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:34 pm

Utd give up a goal at home at last BUT Pogterd and Luke keep on rolling. A few weeks back I told thee all to get off Luke, now his buddy is back and the fixtures get kinder he's definitely viable again. BUT what will Ibra do to his playing time ?

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Re: Contender?

Postby Pottster » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:26 am

Devilsweep wrote:Can I adjust that 640 to 650 - Citeh aint stopping, and the enablers keep producing.


Thinking like that and you may as well say everyone outside the top 100 should give up :lol:

I'l stick with 600 ish points which currently puts you 230 ish off the top end and 130 ish off the top 100 :albino:

Does seem like a big ask but I just can't accept that the winner is already in the top 5000

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Re: Contender?

Postby Devilsweep » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:14 am

834 Leader - Forget that obviously - not season long
764 Johnny Mac - 23 transfers left if he's telling the truth over there (I'm sure he is btw)
I have 10 teams between 663 and 700 that have on average 29 transfers (range is actually 26-32)
There are a few other players who have set up like this or a few teams in this bracket
5000th is 642 points so 122 back off John - That's 8 transfers I would say you need to have in hand

So I stand by what I said 640, 29 /30 transfers and a player in the top 5K now wins this

Just the way it's gone this year - The PPW is too high and will even out
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Re: Contender?

Postby RINKY » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:21 am

Bloke on other channel has 764 points with 23trf.. Would guess his is probably the real leader..

edit see above for a more detailed explanation...lol...

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Re: Contender?

Postby Devilsweep » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:28 am

RINKY wrote:Bloke on other channel has 764 points with 23trf.. Would guess his is probably the real leader..

edit see above for a more detailed explanation...lol...


Haha nice one RInky. Just trying to argue with myself a little - obviously a block that goes on a bimmler might scupper this BUT I don't see it. The premiership is too open these days, WBA are about to lose Pulis, Burnley are already heavily contributing to enablers, Utd peeps have too. Chelsea maybe the way to go ? So better cover that one :titter:

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Re: Contender?

Postby RINKY » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:39 am

Devilsweep wrote:
RINKY wrote:Bloke on other channel has 764 points with 23trf.. Would guess his is probably the real leader..

edit see above for a more detailed explanation...lol...


Haha nice one RInky. Chelsea maybe the way to go ? So better cover that one :titter:


Didn't think you was that worried about my team..

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Re: Contender?

Postby KingMonkey » Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:13 pm

I would be very suprised if this year is any different. Leaders always miles ahead but get reeled in.
I'm with pottster, be quite happy if i have a few top 5000 hitting the new year with 25 left

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Re: Contender?

Postby Devilsweep » Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:37 pm

KingMonkey wrote:I would be very suprised if this year is any different. Leaders always miles ahead but get reeled in.
I'm with pottster, be quite happy if i have a few top 5000 hitting the new year with 25 left


Alright Monkey - tearing up Sky this year? I'll be top 500 in TFF with 25 left mate as long as luck doesn't decide to turn badly. If you are still 70 back at this stage I'd fancy my chances. NB - there are others in similar shape to me also and they are solid players too.

I wonder for example how the world cup will impact things - a lot of players 4 years ago started to get rested -would play in to the hands of the chasers to some degree but the lesser players also don't hit the big points

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Re: Contender?

Postby Devilsweep » Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:45 pm

Another way to look at things - 40 transfers = 40 opportunities to get it wrong. Much prefer this game when it was 30 transfers BUT if you look at the comparable scores between the game (30, 36, 40 transfers) then the extra transfers do not produce incremental gains (adjusting for the KC x2 being added too)....we all get transfers wrong. To win or contend you have to get 90% right I find or 80% if you have a good starting XI. I never have the latter so don't know what to do with myself this year - See Devilsweep Elite 1 for example - 690 points starting XI leader - real score 650ish for 6 wasted transfers.

So to get 90% transfers right those opportunities simply do not happen / deliver in the last 3 months of the season.

Of course anything can happen and I am simply playing the odds on what has happened so far. Normally the odds prevail - lets see heh

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Re: Contender?

Postby KingMonkey » Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:48 pm

Started well sweep but had 3 poor game weeks. Just inside top 2000 with 28 left.
Amazing the difference 1 captain choice and 1 transfer choice can make in this game
Always seem to hit the leaderboard in feb/march in tff but never have enough transfers to make any sort of challenge, looking at my teams this year i feel that that could possibly change.
Big month and a half coming up

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Re: Contender?

Postby Devilsweep » Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:53 pm

I tell you what I won't be doing this year - chasing any FA Cup Points - I always get myself in a small pickle doing that. Well not until the QF stage at least. I know broadly which players tend to play these games and which don't.

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Re: Contender?

Postby KingMonkey » Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:59 pm

Join the club, fecked my best team up last year chasing fa cup hatriks.
Thoughts on christensen keeping his place ? Great value in all formats if he does.
Gomez being benched did not help me in sky, at least he replaced hegazi

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Re: Contender?

Postby Devilsweep » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:03 pm

Gomez - don't worry. he only got rested as we have Champions league this week and that would have been 4 games in 2 weeks. He plays RB as first choice for 3 months.

Conte won't change now - they are starting to roll. Luiz has majorly pissed him off too. He's also a bloody good player too and been on my watch list a couple of years now.

BUT TFF wise I'd only look to the latter.

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Re: Contender?

Postby dwcausey » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:14 pm

Feel like we may be exchanging texts again in May DS - I can add 15 teams over 640 into the mix with an average of 34 transfers left (30-37)

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Re: Contender?

Postby Yorkshire Exile » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:38 pm

I don't think anyone with only 23 left can win unless they are miles clear. December is always carnage. I would warrant that team will have 12-15 transfers left end of Jan -not enough.

My top team has finally fallen to injury curse. 665 and 32 tho and liking the set up. Will probably start using a few to bridge gaps now. If I can have ca 22 left by end Jan and am within 100-150 of the top I reckon I can give it a go.

I don't have the flex in my portfolio of teams this year as sweep and wino... But only takes one team to win it

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Re: Contender?

Postby Devilsweep » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:29 pm

dwcausey wrote:Feel like we may be exchanging texts again in May DS - I can add 15 teams over 640 into the mix with an average of 34 transfers left (30-37)


Excellent news Wino

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Re: Contender?

Postby Henke7 » Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:38 pm

Hard to say, certainly playing catch up to Sweeps stable.

675 with 29t my best.

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Re: Contender?

Postby Devilsweep » Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:41 pm

Henke7 wrote:Hard to say, certainly playing catch up to Sweeps stable.

675 with 29t my best.


And Wino's and Jones Bones just to name 2

But that's not shabby at all. Just been looking at fixtures and Chavs very interesting from next Wed

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Re: Contender?

Postby Henke7 » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:59 pm

That guy on FISO is no threat. He always burns transfers too early. A bit like our old friend Mr Prosser.

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Re: Contender?

Postby Jimmy20 » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:16 pm

669 with 32 left any good?

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Re: Contender?

Postby Yorkshire Exile » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:37 pm

Hope so... Pretty much bang on what I got

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Re: Contender?

Postby Pottster » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:04 pm

717 - 28
By far my best team :albino:

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Re: Contender?

Postby Jimmy20 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:37 pm

716 - 28 my best.
Used a few transfers this week across my teams to bring in a few Chelsea for there good fixtures and get rid of some dead wood. Looking to sit tight for a while now with my top team set up quite well.

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Re: Contender?

Postby Pottster » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:01 pm

Thinking 675 is now the cut off unless your sitting on a wedge of transfers and about to unleash and nail a salvo of genius moves :albino:

A would also not be overly concerned about being closer to 25 than 30 transfers left.
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Re: Contender?

Postby Yorkshire Exile » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:04 pm

:relaxed:

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Re: Contender?

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